its not that americans arn't voting with their dollar, alot of them are, its the corperation ceo's are voting with theirs, and its only theirs that counts. And they want an extra billion dollar bonus this chrismas, so they outsource to china.

and the only reason things are so expensive to make in america is because our major export is CASH to china, we've been giving our wealth away and creating debts that devalue it further, that and china is one of the few countries that still uses slaves. if we closed our imports and exports, in less than a decade we would be back to the real america

 

So. No more importing fuel from Alberta?

 

nope we got plenty

 

KaRLiToS keep trying to put me and Yamaha down and I'll find reasons to purchase the Yamaha. Had my first Yamaha YT524 for 30 years and it went true horrible storms. Don't expect to out live this one.

 

If you think I'm trying to put you and the Yamaha down, then you haven't understand anything at all. Have fun with your toy Coby, while I have fun with mine.

(Like I said, and you probably skipped that, both are extraordinary machines.)

 

Maybe you should read that post yourself.

 

KaRLiToS, for the sake of argument what machine do you have?

 

I just told it in one of my previous post. I have a Honda HSS928TC that I have never tried yet. It is brand new in my shed ... And no I haven't tested the Yamaha either.

What I don't understand is you are trying to make the OP choose the Yamaha without even taking his situation into consideration.


This is one of my previous post too, you can't have a more neutral opinion:

On another note, BigBillyBobandhisGoat, I wouldn't pay the risk to make a snowblower ship that far. If you have a Yamaha dealer near you and you think it will be the best model for you, go ahead and get it as fast as you can. But if you don't have any close to you, get the other best choice for you.

Even if the Yamaha is 200 times better than the honda ones, shipping it crossborder will be a pain, and don't forget about shpping fees, duty fees, risk of damaging in the shpping process and all that crap.

Good luck in making the best choice possible.

For one thing I know for sure is what my neighbour's next snowblowers are going to be and I'm pretty sure they won't be Hondas.

And what does this have to do about the current discussion? Your neighbors probably have a dealer near them? And your neighbors are fictionnal, we don't know if what you are saying is true, so we can't really base a conclusion on some "neighbors". Don't you think?

 

For one thing I know for sure is what my neighbour's next snowblowers are going to be and I'm pretty sure they won't be Hondas.

 

My Word! You guys should put an end to the cat fight. Us regular snow blower guys (who are not so insecure about our machines) are just waiting for the slapping and hair pulling to start!

 

Coby7, I am done here.

If at least you could understand my point. Have a nice day.

 

I have been you tubing the yammys. I had no idea Japan got so much friggen snow!!!
Their ads are hilarious...


I'm just waiting for the dealer to let me know when he gets the 1028, so I can at least see it in person before I decide.

Where I am. The 1028 is cheaper than the 928.

Plus, it just looks badass.

 

man i just looked at those bcs and grillo blowers, man....man....this is rediculess it never stops. they look freaking awesome, HUGE tires so about as good as tracks, looks like some or most have steering, some hydro's which is weird because their top end model doesn't have a hydro, but u can get a diesal engine on those suckers, except for the hydro model again disappointing so alot of choices and compramises.

looks like there's a bunch of different blower attachments to choose from as well which further complicates them. anyone know how well they would rank against a yamaha/honda? it says it throws 30-40 feet on the single stage model which doesn't sound that impressive, but it says its the best 'supposedly' but im not sure what they are basing that on. but the unit on the whole does look sweet, and u can get a seat and snowblow sitting down lol

downside is id have about 6k in it for the diesal model lol

 

Crazy Japanese
http://youtu.be/IEak30e97FI

 

Crazy Japanese
ヤンマー大形除雪機 - YouTube

wow! that's a very impressive machine..
but what struck me most about the video was:
with all that power and technology, you still have to walk behind it?!
no seat?

Scot

 

Coby,
strike one.
three and you are out.
be good or be gone.
Scot

 

This is Hilarious.

Check at that dash.

 

I've seen airplanes with fewer controls..

 

hmmm after watching some video's those bcs's and gorilla's look really hard to control, and i guess it was just a hydro clutch not a hydro transmission. the killer is the attachments cost as much as standalone units. watched a wood chipper video and wasn't very impressed with that, generator attachment costs 1k, and the log splitter was a joke, i dunno i was hyped at first but now i dont know what to think about them. plus i could prob buy an old skidsteer to shovel my drive at some of those prices lol....

 

Theres a pretty major weight difference between the two brands.

The small yammy 624 is 251 lbs
The lager honda 928 is only 212 lbs
The large 1028 yamaha is 373.

Thicker steel in the yamahas ? Built better ?

 

Nice try, but this is incorrect and misleading. The Yamahas are indeed heavier, but not by the margin you show.

You compared the US Honda HS928, which doesn't have a battery or joystick chute control and associated motors, or the hydraulic auger height control like on the Yamaha 1028. You also compared wet weight of the Yamaha to dry weight of the Honda, which is good for about 20 lbs on the 1028.

For machines with similar features:

Small yammy 624 is 251 lbs wet / about 238 dry
Canadian HSS724TCD is 218 lbs dry

Canadian HSS928TCD (the Honda with a battery and joystick chute control) is 265 lbs dry
Yamaha 1028 is 373 lbs wet / 353 lbs dry

So the smaller machines are about 20 lbs different, and the larger machines are 88 lbs different as opposed to your calculation of 161 lbs.

Now, where that difference comes from, I have no clue, but there must be something beefier on the Yamahas. Us Honda owners will hope that is somewhere that didn't need beefing up.

BTW, please correct me if my numbers aren't correct, but I think they are OK.

 

I couldn't buy a Japanese snow blower. I'd have to go with the Honda.

 

Ok.
Let's go on price and features.

Honda 724tcd Is 3499
Yamaha 624. 2599.


I would also concider 88lbs on a snowblower fairly significant.

 

Ok.
Let's go on price and features.

Honda 724tcd Is 3499
Yamaha 624. 2599.

seeing that K4AF is south of the boarder like me our only option is a Honda. I have family in Canada who could go out and buy a Yamaha or honda for me but the duty to bring it back across the border while cheaper than having it shipped would still add too much cost to either machine

 

Heck. Just gonna stick with my trusty old $100 Toro 521!

 

Ok so apparently, shipping a snowblower from Canada to USA is duty free.

Shipping can be expensive though. I did an estimate of 300$ but it can be far worst, insurance is also a most for a piece of mechanic that expensive.


You can try the calculation yourself over at that link.http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/

 

Everything is pulling me towards the Yamaha.
The dealers are both about the same distance away from me. 1+ hours.

The yamaha dealer has been very friendly and answered all my emails promptly.

I went into the Honda dealer in person. Actually to see a yamaha, as they are yam/Honda dealer.

The salesman slammed the Yamaha blowers and acted like Honda poop don't stink. Just didn't give me the warm fuzzies.
I just love the look of the Yamaha.

 

I bought my Honda in MB at a Honda/Yamaha dealer similar to what you describe. They were responsive during the purchase process. Unfortunately, mine was delivered with a missing handlebar bolt. No big deal, but it took about 6 months (some of this delay was from me not following up quickly) and 10 or more phone calls to the dealer and Honda Canada for me to finally get my bolt. Broken promises from the salesperson like, "I'll check if one is in stock, otherwise I'll just pull one off another machine if not" was made to both me and the Honda Canada customer service rep. It was an amazing amount of work to get such a simple part. Once the Honda customer service rep started dealing with the parts department, it went a bit better and I finally got my part. If you want further details PM me. I would not recommend this dealer.

 

Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States

I have made the researches, no duty fee from canada to USa for snowblowers

 

That dealer is the one I went to.
The only dual yam hon dealer.


A few posts up, they state the all Yamaha blowers are made in China.

I was under the impression that it is just the 624.

Not the 1028 and the 1232

 

I thought the 624 only was China.

Thought the rest were Japan.

 

Spoke to Yamaha this morning. They state: All three Yamaha models are made in china under guidelines and supervision by yamaha japan staff.

 

Every company that makes products in China say that they are under the same guidelines and supervision as if they were made in (fill in the blank)
The proof comes from long term customer feedback.